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moses's_bulldog
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TO: Skiddum
If my opinion changes regarding the Dr. Macht study published by Dr. Macht I will certainly tell you. It hasn't changed nor do I believe it will. I see you are still not truly addressing much of the 20 points. |
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moses's_bulldog
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Arthwollipot
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Location: Australia
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| moses's_bulldog wrote: | TO: Arthwollipot
re: pigeons
Does the text say cure anywhere? What exactly are the circumstances?
Are the skeptics trying to repeatedly resurrect a dead horse of a "argument"? |
Let me rephrase.
Is there any evidence, of any kind, that killing a pigeon over running water can achieve any effect, of any kind, other than ending the life of an innocent pigeon? |
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moses's_bulldog
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Arthwollipot
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| Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 4:33 pm Post subject: |
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Cool.
Now, you wanna answer my question? |
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politas
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| Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 4:54 am Post subject: |
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| moses's_bulldog wrote: | TO: ALL
I keep finding more and more evidence pointing to the divine inspiration of the Torah and placing it at skiddum's new thread.
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I find it very sad that you cannot accept that people in Moses' day and earlier might have been smart enough to actually work this sort of stuff out by themselves. people today are smart enough, why not back then?
Your viewpoint seems to be "Moses and his peoples were far too stupid to understand the medical teachings of the ancient Egyptians. God must have told them all of this stuff." |
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skiddum
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Joined: 25 Jan 2005
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Location: FL
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| Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 10:52 pm Post subject: |
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politas,
You made my anus clinch in pain as I saw this thread had been resurrected. I had the great fear that our obdurate friend, moses_bulldog, had returned from his "Gish galloping" exploits across web forums elsewhere, copying and pasting huge and incoherent posts on everything under the sun.
He certainly fits the profile of the flame warrior Profundus Maximus, as once we popped his mighty ego by detailing the flaws in his reasoning, and in the Macht study, he just basically self-destructed.
He just couldn't get it how using animal muscle juice extracts to test their toxicity on growing seeds was an equivocation on what is healthy to humans. Poor joker. |
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moses's_bulldog
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Skiddum,
Dr. Macht was an expert in regards to toxins.
I also cite:
| Quote: | David I. Macht was a Johns Hopkins medical researcher with a number of notable achievements. In the field of toxicology, Dr. Macht was known for his work regarding phytopharmocological (using plant-based methods) for determining toxicity. Dr. Macht wrote in the peer-reviewed journal Science that the toxicity test used for the study on Levitical clean and unclean animals was "certainly just as reliable as those gathered from animal test subjects, if not more so"
http://www.creationwiki.net/index.php?title=David_Macht
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Case closed. You lost the toxicity testing debate and the Macht debate. |
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Coragyps
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Joined: 31 Dec 2003
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Location: West Texas, USA
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| Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 8:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Dr. Macht was an expert in regards to toxins. |
Excrement of a domestic male bovid! He came up with a silly test based on seed germination that was never cited or used by anyone else doing toxicology work in the last seventy years!
But we're glad to have you back, MB. |
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Cubist
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| moses's_bulldog wrote: | Skiddum,
Dr. Macht was an expert in regards to toxins.
I also cite:
| Quote: | David I. Macht was a Johns Hopkins medical researcher with a number of notable achievements. In the field of toxicology, Dr. Macht was known for his work regarding phytopharmocological (using plant-based methods) for determining toxicity. Dr. Macht wrote in the peer-reviewed journal Science that the toxicity test used for the study on Levitical clean and unclean animals was "certainly just as reliable as those gathered from animal test subjects, if not more so" (emphasis added by Cubist)
http://www.creationwiki.net/index.php?title=David_Macht |
Case closed. You lost the toxicity testing debate and the Macht debate. |
Because, of course, the best way to determine whether or not Dr. X is right is for Dr. X himself to tell you he's right... |
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Coragyps
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Location: West Texas, USA
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| Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 4:01 am Post subject: |
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| Hmmmm. I wonder who wrote that CreationWiki article? |
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skiddum
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Location: FL
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| Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 12:20 am Post subject: |
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| moses's_bulldog wrote: | Skiddum,
Case closed. You lost the toxicity testing debate and the Macht debate. |
I'm sure those who hung around for that hilarity of a "debate" and saw it for themselves would conclude...otherwise...
So you cite the guy asserting that this test, a test in which seed germination in animal muscle juices is used to correlate to human toxicity, is A-ok as "the clincher"?
Funny, isn't it, that no one, not in the almost 100 years since Macht, has used that toxicology test for anything whatsoever? You'd think the opposite would be true, wouldn't you, if his test was so wickedly awesome?
Isn't it even funnier how all the creationists have to keep appealing to ancient (by scientific standards) "research" to prove their case?
You're splitting my sides, MB. |
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